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Mackwop Explains His Mindset on Early Tours

13:30 – 16:453:15 long

Mackwop addresses commentary from the room about archival tour footage and explains his perspective during early tour runs.

While reviewing archival video from past tour stops across Texas and Australia, the hosts point out Mackwop's demeanor in the background of the footage. At 13:30, Mackwop is asked about what he was thinking during that specific tour run. He explains at 13:46 that he was confident his time would eventually come, noting that he never felt frustrated or bitter because he believed he would eventually be on stage and on tour in his own right.

Other hosts jokingly suggest at 14:18 that Mackwop looked like he was disapproving of Smac's presence on the bus. Mackwop firmly pushes back against the framing, stating at 14:21 that he was never upset with Smac and asking the room not to attach negative narratives to past footage. He clarifies that he was simply observing how the tour team operated, figuring out each person's designated role, and learning the structure of large-scale road productions at 15:20.

By the end of the exchange at 16:42, the hosts acknowledge that navigating new team dynamics on the road can take time, with the room agreeing that everyone eventually found their groove as the tours progressed.